|This value guide was found on Hemmings' Website in the summer of 1999:
Fair Good Excellent
1979 Model A Open Pickup $ 4,825 $ 6,875 $ 10,650
1980 Model A Open Pickup $ 4,850 $ 6,925 $ 10,750
1981 Model A Open Pickup $ 4,900 $ 6,975 $ 10,825
1982 Model A Open Pickup $ 4,925 $ 7,025 $ 10,900
1979 Model A Roadster $ 3,925 $ 6,425 $ 9,900
1980 Model A Roadster $ 3,950 $ 6,475 $ 9,975
1981 Model A Roadster $ 4,000 $ 6,525 $ 10,025
1982 Model A Roadster $ 4,025 $ 6,575 $ 10,100
EXCELLENT: Nearly perfect condition. The vehicle has usually been professionally restored to the current highest standards, but a few exceptionally well cared for original car may qualify. All components are original or are an exact replacement. Most "excellent" cars are not driven more than a few miles per year, if at all.
GOOD: Very nice condition. In fact, most casual observers would describe the vehicle as "excellent". "Good" cars show very little wear and are driven sparingly. Many are used as weekend drivers.
FAIR: Presentable condition. Runs and drives and will pass a state safety inspection. May be driven on a daily basis. Generally in need of a cosmetic restoration, but not a "basket case". There are many cars on the road that fall below this "fair" category, and will be priced accordingly. These are commonly referred to as "beaters" and are usually not worth restoring, as the restoration costs will almost certainly exceed the value of the finished vehicle.
This NADA price guide was found on Hemmings' Website in September 2004:
Low Retail: $6,125 Average Retail: $9,750 High Retail: $14,350
LOW RETAIL: This vehicle would be in mechanically functional condition, needing only minor reconditioning. The exterior paint, trim, and interior would show normal wear, needing only minor reconditioning. May also be a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. Most usable "as-is". Note: This value does not represent a "parts car".
AVERAGE RETAIL: This vehicle would be in good condition overall. It could be an older restoration or a well-maintained original vehicle. Completely operable. The exterior paint, trim, and mechanics are presentable and serviceable inside and out. A "20-footer".
HIGH RETAIL: This vehicle would be in excellent condition overall. It could be a completely restored or an extremely well maintained original vehicle showing very minimal wear. The exterior paint, trim, and mechanics are not in need of reconditioning. The interior would be in excellent condition. Note: This value does not represent a "100 Point" or "# 1" vehicle *.
Most of all, a Shay is not a Model A. And then again, a Shay is not a Pinto. A Shay is a unique fun car in its own right.
If you're looking to buy a Shay, you'll have to accept this about upkeep and restoration:
-Some of it can still be done with parts found at Ford dealers and other regular or specialized outlets (like NAPA or UAP).
-Some of it can be done with NOS parts found on the For Sale / Wanted Ads page.
-Some of it will have to be done by adapting Model A parts yourself (from Le Baron Bonney or Mac's - see Links Page)
-Some parts will have to be re-built from scratch (such as the upholstery and top).
There are no Shay parts catalogs or lists other than what can be found on the Bulletin Board.
The more we move away from 1980, the less NOS Pinto parts will remain available. However, since the Pinto/Mustang mechanics were widely adopted by Hot Rodders in the eighties, this has created a surprisingly varied replacement parts market in that milieu.
"NEW SHAY OWNER'S GUIDE": This is very well thought out advice and check list prepared by Roy Alexander of Canada. It's designed for the new owner who wants to avoid mechanical surprises in his first days and months of ownership. It's full of essential maintenance and safety recommendations.
I had a great English sports car for fifteen years (until an addition to the family forced me to look for a four-seater). As with the Shay, when I coldly analysed each component separately, I felt vaguely disapointed with that purchase on some days. However, when I took a few steps back and considered everything as a whole, it really works quite well and the overall feeling was of great pleasure. And, if your primary goal isn't that of investment, isn't that really what we are all looking to get from such cars?
As the brochure so truthfully claimed: «Crowds gather, motorists are courteous, everyone waves and beeps, smiles greet the Ah-OOO-Gah horn, strangers are like old friends...» and, as one owner added: «Unlike a real Model A, my Shay stops and it doesn't leak!».
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| VALUE (US$)
In 1980: The '80 Pinto cost from $4,200 to $5,400. About 185,000 were made in the USA. The Shay was supposed to be introduced at $6,000 for the most standard model, but this went up quickly to $10,000 by 1980. Deluxe models went for $11,000 and Super Deluxe models went for $13,000.
|When looking to buy a Shay, the best bet you have on quality and price is to try to find the lowest possible mileage on a Shay which is privately owned. Unless pampered or very low mileage, a Shay can age rapidly. Check for stress cracks on the fenders and around wheel wells if it has sidemounted spares. These cracks indicate the car was probably driven carelessly and roughly. Look also at the frame and undercarriage which tends to rust rapidly. In a 20 year old car, expect radiator and heater core fatigue. All brake rubber parts (hoses and seals) are at their useful life limit after 20 years and cast iron brake parts will also start to be affected by inside rust.|
|There are still a surprisingly good quantity of 3,000-milers (and less) out there. If they are also good lookers, you will have to pay around $10,000 to $14,000 for such cars in the hands of private owners (maybe even up to $16,000 for a truly mint one). I've even seen a couple of $20,000 asking prices in 2005. There are definitely no $8,000 Shays anymore, as was the norm when I bought mine in 1999. I would venture to say that 2005 market conditions support the following values:
Low Retail: $9,000 Average Retail: $12,000 High Retail: $15,000
If you need an official document stating the above mentionned values for government or insurance purposes, you must ask a professional automobile appraiser. To find those nearest to you, click http://yp.yahoo.com/py/yploc.py?ycat=7737166&desc=&btype= , enter your city + state and click «continue». On the next screen that you'll get, type in «automobile appraisers» and click «search now». Voila!
How to find a Shay for sale on other Websites? Simply go to my Links Page and follow the instructions relative to the "Hemmings Motor News" and "Collector Car Trader Online" Websites.
Tell us what you most like (and dislike) about your Shay Roadster!
There are 4 questions (on the two first pages) and the third page shows the cumulative results. You can only vote once.
| THANK YOU CHUCK KOZELKA AND STEVE CLEMENS FOR THIS INFORMATION:
PRICE GUIDES FOR NADA FOR SHAY MODEL A FOR 2011.
SHAY MODEL A: THUNDERBIRD:
LOW= $7,975.00 LOW= $9,000.00
AVG= $11.750.00 AVG= $12,000.00
HIGH= $16,200.00 HIGH= $17,000.00
NOTE; ADD 15% FOR V-8 IN THUNDERBIRDS.